April 25, 2007
by: jovial_cynic
Cheney's accusation against the Democrats regarding the proposed bill is interesting -- he "accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Tuesday of pursuing a defeatist strategy in Iraq to win votes in the next election." But when you consider that the Democrats are in office because they've already won those votes, it's safe to say that the majority of voting Americans do not feel that the US presence in Iraq makes any sense, and that they'd agree with a pull out.

From CNN:

Democrats are preparing to send Bush a $124.2 billion bill that would, among other things, fund the war in Iraq but require that troops begin pulling out on Oct. 1, or earlier if the Iraqi government does not make progress in tamping down sectarian violence and forging political agreements. The bill ultimately sets a nonbinding goal for combat operations to end by April 1, 2008.

The only question now is whether or not Iraq is capable of dealing with sectarian fragmentation.
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The Conservative Manifesto said:
"'s safe to say that the majority of voting Americans do not feel that the US presence in Iraq makes any sense, and that they'd agree with a pull out."

Hmm, really?

* According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 61% of Americans oppose “denying the funding needed to send any additional U.S. troops to Iraq,” and opposition is up from 58% in February. (3/23-25, 2007).

* A Bloomberg poll reveals 61% of Americans believe withholding funding for the war is a bad idea, while only 28% believe it is a good idea (3/3-11, 2007).

* A recent Public Opinion Strategies (POS) poll found that 56% of registered voters favor fully funding the war in Iraq, with more voters strongly favoring funding (40%) than totally opposing it (38%); (3/25-27, 2007).

* POS found also that a majority of voters (54%) oppose the Democrats imposing a reduction in troops below the level military commanders requested (3/25-27, 2007).

* A separate POS poll finds 57% of voters support staying in Iraq until the job is finished and “the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for its people.” And 59% of voters say pulling out of Iraq immediately would do more to harm America’s reputation in the world than staying until order is restored (35%); (2/5-7, 2007).

* A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll show 69% of American voters trust military commanders more than members of Congress (18%) to decide when United States troops should leave Iraq. This includes 52% of Democrats, 69% of Independents and 88% of Republicans (3/27-28, 2007).

* According to a recent Pew Research survey, only 17% of Americans want an immediate withdrawal of troops (4/18-22, 2007). That same poll found a plurality of adults (45%) believe a terrorist attack against the United States is more likely if we withdraw our troops from Iraq while the “country remains unstable”

* Should a date for withdrawal be set, 70% of American believe it is likely that “insurgents will increase their attacks in Iraq” starting on that day. This is supported by 85% of Republicans, 71% of Independents and 60% of Democrats. (FOX News/Opinion Dynamics, 4/17-18, 2007).

* An LA Times/Bloomberg polls reveals that 50% of Americans say setting a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq “hurts” the troops, while only 27% believe it “helps” the troops (4/5-9, 2007).

April 27, 2007

jovial_cynic said:
A lot of polls you posted have to do with with decreasing funding. That has nothing to do with what I said. Leaving US folks there and decreasing funding would be asinine.

Furthermore, let's be honest here. Fox News polls are for folks who absorb Fox media. To run a poll through Fox news is almost dishonest.

The point I'm making is that Cheney's statement makes no sense. He's accusing the Left of trying to gain votes by doing the very thing that got them into office -- that is, to stand against the Bush administration and the US presence in Iraq. The Left has been openly anti-war, and that's been the political stump. To argue that the Left is just trying to get more votes by continuing with the same rhetoric seems silly.

April 28, 2007

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